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    Because what a country does in the 1930s dictates what they do forever more.

    Like I said, I'm no fan of America's foreign policy. They're way too imperialistic and they need to get the hell out of foreign countries, but I have no problem with them retaliating after being attacked.
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    There's nothing more dumb than invading a whole country because a few people from a different country made a terrorist attack on yours.

    A group of people hating your country means =/= whole middle east hates your country and will go out of it's way to destroy it.

    If they really gave a **** about the people who died in the 9/11 attacks, then they'll know how it feels to lose relatives and loved ones, and therefore they wouldn't invade countries killing thousands of innocent civilians who had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.
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    It wasn't a few people. The Taliban were in control and were just training terrorists.
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    ​Banned for life FTR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSB View Post
    Do not try to pull that ****. Islamic extremists are far more common and far more likely to turn to terrorism than Christian ones. As much as I despise Christianity and all organised religion, to say that Islam is no worse than Christianity is absurd.

    When South Park or Family Guy or another cartoon pokes fun at Jesus, nobody says anything. When South Park poked fun at Muhammad, the cartoonists got death threats and there were riots in Islamic countries.

    Match fixing is deep set in their culture. And I didn't say they were MAKING terrorists, I said they were harbouring them. (Where was Bin Laden killed? Oh that's right, PAKISTAN).

    And groups like the IRA aren't controlling entire countries.
    Why do you hate religion?

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    You could argue it does lead to a lot of conflict in the world.

    I don't have any issues with it though, as long as it's not forced upon people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piethepker View Post
    Why do you hate religion?
    It breeds hate and intolerance and encourages people NOT to think for themselves, and to take their morals from a barbaric stone-age book which no irreligious, rational person would even THINK of getting their morals from.
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    you know you can state a point without degrading the other one.

    Besides, almost all morals in the bible are good and therefore make people better people, what's the problem in that?

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    Just seen Family Guy and Brian said, "What you call God, is inside you, all of us. I just hate to see people hating and killing each other over their own interpretation of what they're not smart enough to understand."

    Could hardly have said it better myself.

    All people, from Christians to Muslims to Jews to Buddhists, do religious things that they feel are good, but it causes conflict as both groups of people believe what they're fighting for is what God wants etc... What they don't realise is they are pretty much wanting the same thing, they're trying to be good people, but it's their, only slightly, conflicting religious views that cause often violent conflict. It just seems so pointless and unnecessary as all religions are so similar and the religion most people chose is as a result of family inheriting etc, so to have any kinda fighting over it....well it's just ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Nah it is kinda racist to blame it on the country. You also have to remember there are a lot of factors that increase the chances of Pakistani players turning to spot fixing, which are independent to the players nature. They don't get paid as much by the boards as most nations, their country is one that is in poverty and despite them likely be paid more than most, there's a good chance their families live in poor conditions etc...And last, but not at all least, they have no chance of playing in the IPL. I could guarantee Amir wouldn't of fixed for 2,000 pounds if he was gett 400-600 thousand dollars just to play in the IPL.

    Also the terrorist stereotype is definitely racist IMO. For some reason islamic terrorism is always highlighted more than terrorism from western countries. Groups such as the IRA don't get anywhere near the amount of abuse that the Taliban get.
    Great post! Very knowledgeable Cabi! I'm impressed...

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    Ummm yeah I think America cared about finding & killing the terrorist who killed thousands of people and destroyed part of the Pentagon as well as the twin towers.

    Oh and ousting the oppressive military dictatorship that was ruling Afghanistan with an iron fist & breeding terrorists...
    Sounds you like watch a lot of FOX news (USA)

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    That's what I was thinking as well

    Although CSB does claim to be left wing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piethepker View Post
    you know you can state a point without degrading the other one.

    Besides, almost all morals in the bible are good and therefore make people better people, what's the problem in that?
    No. They aren't. And no, they don't. Bad people do bad things all the time, but only religion can make a good person do a bad thing.

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    Sounds you like watch a lot of FOX news (USA)
    No I hate Faux News. Everyone with half a brain knows what they're about. Just because I don't subscribe to bull**** crackpot conspiracy theories about Bush and him invading Afghanistan for oil doesn't make me some conservatard Republican.
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    CSB is one delusional guy. If you were a muslim or wore a turban, you would understand the discrimination you'd get while living in Canada or USA. While you guys(white people) get to abuse us, we have to suffer from such things. It's USA who made Talibans in the first place, trying to take over the world. Even 9/11 was done by the same people who blamed it on the Islamic groups of people. Freakin USA... Now you talk about harboring terrorists, well son... that's what you get for ruining thousand of people's lives in Afghanistan, Pakistan and whole of middle-east.

    As for this spot-fixing, grow the **** up. Everyone did it in the late 90's and nobody gave a piece of ass then, and certainly now, I don't give a **** about how they are playing cricket as long as I am not involved. I'm happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    That's what I was thinking as well

    Although CSB does claim to be left wing
    I'm about as left wing as it gets son. A bisexual atheist liberal-socialist. Can't get much less right-wing than that without being Karl Marx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSB View Post
    No. They aren't. And no, they don't. Bad people do bad things all the time, but only religion can make a good person do a bad thing.



    No I hate Faux News. Everyone with half a brain knows what they're about. Just because I don't subscribe to bull**** crackpot conspiracy theories about Bush and him invading Afghanistan for oil doesn't make me some conservatard Republican.
    Prove it, Atheists seem to know more about the bible then me somehow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rager View Post
    CSB is one delusional guy. If you were a muslim or wore a turban, you would understand the discrimination you'd get while living in Canada or USA. While you guys(white people) get to abuse us, we have to suffer from such things. It's USA who made Talibans in the first place, trying to take over the world. Even 9/11 was done by the same people who blamed it on the Islamic groups of people. Freakin USA... Now you talk about harboring terrorists, well son... that's what you get for ruining thousand of people's lives in Afghanistan, Pakistan and whole of middle-east.

    As for this spot-fixing, grow the **** up. Everyone did it in the late 90's and nobody gave a piece of ass then, and certainly now, I don't give a **** about how they are playing cricket as long as I am not involved. I'm happy.
    I don't discriminate against people just for wearing turbans. Moron.

    And I know about the US funding terrorists to attack the Soviets, but I still think if your country gets attacked by someone, your country is allowed to retaliate. Am I wrong? Should we all have just let the Nazis carry on, for instance?

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    Prove it, Atheists seem to know more about the bible then me somehow
    Prove it as in...?

    Would you like me to quote verses from the Old Testament encouraging genocide, murder, killing women who aren't virgins when they get married, killing women if they don't scream loud enough when being raped, etc.?

    How about some verses from the New Testament where Jesus condones the slavery of human beings? Would those be better?

    The problem with religion is that it takes morally repugnant acts and not only sanctions them (makes them ok), but actually ENCOURAGES them, by making them out to be "righteous". Basically saying that you're a GOOD person for killing infidels etc. Do you think those people flying the planes into the buildings would've done so without the promise of living forever in paradise with 72 virgins?

    I don't think so.
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    But Nazism was an official government thing. Terrorists are a tiny minority. Just because one group of people make an attack on the US, doesn't mean their whole country should be ruined as a result. Even with Germany I wasn't for any cripiling of the nation or anything of the sort after World War II. The Nazi's had to be stopped but I hold no grudges on the nation now. **** sake I actually want their football team to win Euro 2012, more than England!
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    The Taliban WAS the government in Afghanistan.
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    I don't discriminate against people just for wearing turbans. Moron.
    By you, I meant the people in USA who are white. Discrimination still exists, believe it or not. One of my friend just visited India, month ago, and he was stopped on security and was asked bunch of random questions. This is after 12 years of 9/11.

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    And Saudi Arabians were the ones responsible for 9/11 were they not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    But Nazism was an official government thing. Terrorists are a tiny minority. Just because one group of people make an attack on the US, doesn't mean their whole country should be ruined as a result. Even with Germany I wasn't for any cripiling of the nation or anything of the sort after World War II. The Nazi's had to be stopped but I hold no grudges on the nation now. **** sake I actually want their football team to win Euro 2012, more than England!
    I am waiting for the day, when someone from USA turns out to be a terrorist and launches his attack on a poor country. Forces from other Pakistan/Afghanistan will suit up and will sort out USA for once and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSB View Post
    I don't discriminate against people just for wearing turbans. Moron.

    And I know about the US funding terrorists to attack the Soviets, but I still think if your country gets attacked by someone, your country is allowed to retaliate. Am I wrong? Should we all have just let the Nazis carry on, for instance?



    Prove it as in...?

    Would you like me to quote verses from the Old Testament encouraging genocide, murder, killing women who aren't virgins when they get married, killing women if they don't scream loud enough when being raped, etc.?

    How about some verses from the New Testament where Jesus condones the slavery of human beings? Would those be better?

    The problem with religion is that it takes morally repugnant acts and not only sanctions them (makes them ok), but actually ENCOURAGES them, by making them out to be "righteous". Basically saying that you're a GOOD person for killing infidels etc. Do you think those people flying the planes into the buildings would've done so without the promise of living forever in paradise with 72 virgins?

    I don't think so.
    I am done, arguing about religion gets no where and i have no answer to that

    you win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSB View Post
    The Taliban WAS the government in Afghanistan.
    It was the USA FFS who trained these extremists. You moron. Covert operation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    And Saudi Arabians were the ones responsible for 9/11 were they not?
    USA had it coming, imo. It was just an excuse to blame it on someone who would likely to be the fall candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rager View Post
    CSB is one delusional guy. If you were a muslim or wore a turban, you would understand the discrimination you'd get while living in Canada or USA. While you guys(white people) get to abuse us, we have to suffer from such things. It's USA who made Talibans in the first place, trying to take over the world. Even 9/11 was done by the same people who blamed it on the Islamic groups of people. Freakin USA... Now you talk about harboring terrorists, well son... that's what you get for ruining thousand of people's lives in Afghanistan, Pakistan and whole of middle-east.

    As for this spot-fixing, grow the **** up. Everyone did it in the late 90's and nobody gave a piece of ass then, and certainly now, I don't give a **** about how they are playing cricket as long as I am not involved. I'm happy.
    This is actually true! USA made Taliban during cold war to fight with Russia, but we all know how it all worked out. It's also the reason behind Taliban having American weapons (USA supplied it all).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Rager View Post
    I am waiting for the day, when someone from USA turns out to be a terrorist and launches his attack on a poor country. Forces from other Pakistan/Afghanistan will suit up and will sort out USA for once and all.
    No one could sort out USA once and for all. They're one of the most powerful nation in the world with support from other powerful nations.
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    Some light reading for Oscar.

    The first major military activity of the Taliban was in October-November 1994 when they marched from Maiwand in southern Afghanistan to capture Kandahar City and the surrounding provinces, losing only a few dozen men.[11] Starting with the capture of a border crossing and a huge ammunition dump from warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a few weeks later they freed "a convoy trying to open a trade route from Pakistan to Central Asia" from another group of warlords attempting to extort money.[12] In the next three months this hitherto "unknown force" took control of twelve of Afghanistan's 34 provinces, with Mujahideen warlords often surrendering to them without a fight and the "heavily armed population" giving up their weapons.[13] By September 1996 they had captured Afghanistan's capital, Kabul.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban's_rise_to_power
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverDrive View Post
    This is actually true! USA made Taliban during cold war to fight with Russia, but we all know how it all worked out. It's also the reason behind Taliban having American weapons (USA supplied it all).
    The USA actually gave WMD's to Iraq before the second golf war. IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piethepker View Post
    I am done, arguing about religion gets no where and i have no answer to that

    you win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSB View Post
    Wikipedia is a not a good source. You would fail in any argument you would make with a reference to wikipedia. Mate, you need to go out more and experience **** than sit behind your computer and run your mouth.

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    CSB you need to live in a multicultural place for a few months and meet people from other nations. Then, you'll get first hand experience and know the actual stories, not what news tells you.

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